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Romanian Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns conduct a live-fire exercise (Photo: US Department of Defense)
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War with Russia is no fantasy, former Nato secretary general warns

Troops part of a Nato battlegroup conduct a live-fire exercise
Romanian Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns conduct a live-fire exercise (Photo: US Department of Defense)

Russia's military hierarchy must be aware that an "actual and not fictitious war" with Nato is possible if they overdo things in Ukraine, according to a former Nato secretary general.

Lord Robertson, who served in the post from 1999 to 2003, told peers there was a need to ensure the West is not nervous of Russian escalation.

Instead, the UK and its allies "need to breed" in military chiefs in Moscow the worry of a possible conflict with Nato – something he said Russia "could only lose".

His remarks came as peers debated the situation in Ukraine and pressed for Western countries to develop a long-term strategy to aid Kyiv.

Ukraine is pushing for Nato membership, although this remains a thorny issue for some of its current membership.

Nato's collective defence guarantee, known as Article 5, means an attack against one ally is considered as an attack on them all.

Lord Robertson highlighted the "enormous propaganda exercise" being undertaken by the Kremlin in a bid to "undermine Western support and encourage the global south countries to bend to them".

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He warned it is "already having an effect" on European opinion, as he pointed to a poll which suggested a majority of Hungarians, Romanians and Bulgarians believe providing weapons to Ukraine "provokes Russia and drags their own countries closer" to the war.

Lord Robertson, referring to Russian president Vladimir Putin, said: "It was one man who took the decision to invade and it will take one man to decide enough is enough."

The former defence secretary cited examples of the former Soviet Union in Afghanistan and authoritarian leaders taking steps back when they could see the "ground was moving under them", adding: "Personal survival matters to them much more than saving face.

"That's why it's imperative that Vladimir Putin gets the same message, and that he will get it by the West standing firm and resolute and with Western leaders regularly and loudly telling their people what’s at stake and why sacrifices are in their own personal and nation’s interest."

Lord Robertson highlighted the Russian effort to produce military supplies and said it is "crucial" the UK and its allies supply Ukraine with the weaponry it requests.

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He went on: "And I say again that we need to guard against that fear, that apprehension of escalation in so many leaderships in Europe.

"Instead of the West being nervous of Russian escalation, something that they've maxed out already, we need to breed in the military hierarchy in Moscow the worry that if they overdo what is being done in Ukraine then an actual and not fictitious war with Nato might be the result; a war that they know they could only lose."

Lord Robertson said his experience of the Russian military is they are "very patriotic and very conservative", adding: "The motherland is more important and in the end, they will not be prepared to risk the motherland for a failing Putin-esque adventure, and especially one which has been so spectacularly unsuccessful and wasteful and indeed humiliating."

Lord Stirrup, who served as head of the Armed Forces between 2006 and 2010, earlier said relations between the West and post-conflict Russia and Mr Putin cannot resume “as if nothing has happened”.

The independent crossbench peer said: "It must accept at last that it is dealing not with a normal government but, as I publicly asserted nine years ago, with a gangster regime; a regime that will tell any lie, betray any promise and commit any crime in pursuit of what it sees as its interest.

"The West must respond accordingly, it must impose an appropriate cost on Russia and that will inevitably have long-term consequences for international relations."

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